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Tammy wrote:
Jeff Probst wrote:Tammy, can you trust the jury's reactions?


Nope. They want a certain outcome here too. They're still playing the game too.


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By Kelly Wigles
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Tammy wrote:
Jeff Probst wrote:Tammy, can you trust the jury's reactions?


Nope. They want a certain outcome here too. They're still playing the game too.



What do you mean by that?
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Kelly Wigles wrote:Penner, you've been at this stage before and you've won your previous season, is there an argument for or against you based on that record?


I think as a former winner I'll be judged way more harshly by a jury and people should take that into consideration. A lot of people think I "ruined my reputation" by the weak game that I played and those people are on the jury right now.
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Heidi wrote:Another argument for taking me to the end is that I'm going to vote for Tammy if she's in the final three. If Penner is on the jury, he's not going to vote for Tammy or I. Why would Hayden give up the automatic vote that is Penner?



wait, wouldn't that be a good reason to put you in the jury over Penner?
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Kelly Wigles wrote:
Tammy wrote:
Jeff Probst wrote:Tammy, can you trust the jury's reactions?


Nope. They want a certain outcome here too. They're still playing the game too.



What do you mean by that?


I mean they want me to turn on Heidi but it's not ~for me~ and my benefit. Like please lol
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Jeff Probst wrote:That's a fair point Tammy makes Penner... the Jury could just be reacting in an attempt to sway her opinion to get what they want. Why should she trust what you're saying?


I think Tammy should consider that all of those people who are mocking her via smilies are going to vote for Hayden. But maybe some will vote for Hayden and some will vote for me, and that's what will save her.
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Tammy wrote:
Kelly Wigles wrote:
Tammy wrote:
Jeff Probst wrote:Tammy, can you trust the jury's reactions?


Nope. They want a certain outcome here too. They're still playing the game too.



What do you mean by that?


I mean they want me to turn on Heidi but it's not ~for me~ and my benefit. Like please lol



Is it just a personal reason to not turn on Heidi? Is your friendship more important than your game?
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Kelly Wigles wrote:
Heidi wrote:Another argument for taking me to the end is that I'm going to vote for Tammy if she's in the final three. If Penner is on the jury, he's not going to vote for Tammy or I. Why would Hayden give up the automatic vote that is Penner?



wait, wouldn't that be a good reason to put you in the jury over Penner?


Yeah, if Tammy were the swing vote.

Everyone is pretending that Tammy is the swing vote for some reason, when it's very obviously Hayden. This isn't your "Ciera votes out her mom" moment.
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Penner wrote:
Jeff Probst wrote:That's a fair point Tammy makes Penner... the Jury could just be reacting in an attempt to sway her opinion to get what they want. Why should she trust what you're saying?


I think Tammy should consider that all of those people who are mocking her via smilies are going to vote for Hayden. But maybe some will vote for Hayden and some will vote for me, and that's what will save her.


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Penner wrote:
Kelly Wigles wrote:Penner, you've been at this stage before and you've won your previous season, is there an argument for or against you based on that record?


I think as a former winner I'll be judged way more harshly by a jury and people should take that into consideration. A lot of people think I "ruined my reputation" by the weak game that I played and those people are on the jury right now.


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Heidi wrote:
Kelly Wigles wrote:
Heidi wrote:Another argument for taking me to the end is that I'm going to vote for Tammy if she's in the final three. If Penner is on the jury, he's not going to vote for Tammy or I. Why would Hayden give up the automatic vote that is Penner?



wait, wouldn't that be a good reason to put you in the jury over Penner?


Yeah, if Tammy were the swing vote.

Everyone is pretending that Tammy is the swing vote for some reason, when it's very obviously Hayden. This isn't your "Ciera votes out her mom" moment.



well if the popular argument is that Hayden has this in the bag, then it doesn't really matter does it?
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Tammy wrote:
Kelly Wigles wrote:
Tammy wrote:
Jeff Probst wrote:Tammy, can you trust the jury's reactions?


Nope. They want a certain outcome here too. They're still playing the game too.



What do you mean by that?


I mean they want me to turn on Heidi but it's not ~for me~ and my benefit. Like please lol


Regardless of why they might want that, they clearly aren't going to vote for you. Do you want ALL of them to vote for Hayden?
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Penner wrote:
Jeff Probst wrote:That's a fair point Tammy makes Penner... the Jury could just be reacting in an attempt to sway her opinion to get what they want. Why should she trust what you're saying?


I think Tammy should consider that all of those people who are mocking her via smilies are going to vote for Hayden. But maybe some will vote for Hayden and some will vote for me, and that's what will save her.


What votes would I get though that I wouldn't have gotten before?
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Heidi wrote:
Kelly Wigles wrote:
Heidi wrote:Another argument for taking me to the end is that I'm going to vote for Tammy if she's in the final three. If Penner is on the jury, he's not going to vote for Tammy or I. Why would Hayden give up the automatic vote that is Penner?



wait, wouldn't that be a good reason to put you in the jury over Penner?


Yeah, if Tammy were the swing vote.

Everyone is pretending that Tammy is the swing vote for some reason, when it's very obviously Hayden. This isn't your "Ciera votes out her mom" moment.


Hayden is NOT the swing vote, he's going to vote me out because he knows that gives him the best chance of winning because he gets anyone that would vote against you and for me.
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Tammy wrote:
Penner wrote:
Jeff Probst wrote:That's a fair point Tammy makes Penner... the Jury could just be reacting in an attempt to sway her opinion to get what they want. Why should she trust what you're saying?


I think Tammy should consider that all of those people who are mocking her via smilies are going to vote for Hayden. But maybe some will vote for Hayden and some will vote for me, and that's what will save her.


What votes would I get though that I wouldn't have gotten before?


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Kelly Wigles wrote:
Heidi wrote:
Kelly Wigles wrote:
Heidi wrote:Another argument for taking me to the end is that I'm going to vote for Tammy if she's in the final three. If Penner is on the jury, he's not going to vote for Tammy or I. Why would Hayden give up the automatic vote that is Penner?



wait, wouldn't that be a good reason to put you in the jury over Penner?


Yeah, if Tammy were the swing vote.

Everyone is pretending that Tammy is the swing vote for some reason, when it's very obviously Hayden. This isn't your "Ciera votes out her mom" moment.



well if the popular argument is that Hayden has this in the bag, then it doesn't really matter does it?


If the popular argument is that it's impossible for Tammy or I to win, I think we'd both prefer that Hayden won the game over Penner. The outcome of the challenge didn't leave us with an option, really, so this is just the way it has to go.
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Tammy wrote:
Penner wrote:
Jeff Probst wrote:That's a fair point Tammy makes Penner... the Jury could just be reacting in an attempt to sway her opinion to get what they want. Why should she trust what you're saying?


I think Tammy should consider that all of those people who are mocking her via smilies are going to vote for Hayden. But maybe some will vote for Hayden and some will vote for me, and that's what will save her.


What votes would I get though that I wouldn't have gotten before?


If Drew/Dan/Sierra/Sugar vote for Hayden, he probably picks up enough to win. If Drew/Dan vote for me and Sierra/Sugar vote for Hayden, now we're both on 2 and you've picked up all the votes you and Heidi would have gotten.
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